Welcome, Julia! I give your husband high marks for being so understanding of your present state of of spiritual development; you must know that this is an atypical attitude for most JWs who face newly awakened misgivings on the part of their mate, so count your self lucky in that regard; good luck with your journey.
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I'm new, please come and meet me!
by Julia Orwell inlong time lurker, first time poster.
i'm really glad i can join your community because i've been in the wts for the last 14 years and now i'm on my way out and it's great to meet like-minded people!.
about me: i started learning jw ways when i was in my teens.
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Deteriorating content of the WT
by His Excellency inhas anyone noticed the recent deterioration in the quality of wt's contents lately?..
the spiritual food seems to be getting more and more shitty these days.
i have given a thought to what could really be going wrong, and if it is likely that some on the wiriting committee is consciously dishing out those nonsense to facilitate more poeple seeing ttat.
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"The religion is dead, it just hasn't fallen over yet." well said, Jeff T
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Deteriorating content of the WT
by His Excellency inhas anyone noticed the recent deterioration in the quality of wt's contents lately?..
the spiritual food seems to be getting more and more shitty these days.
i have given a thought to what could really be going wrong, and if it is likely that some on the wiriting committee is consciously dishing out those nonsense to facilitate more poeple seeing ttat.
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"The religion is dead, it just hasn't fallen over yet." well said, Jeff T
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December 15 Watchtower --- A New Low in WT Anti-Intellectualism
by Room 215 ini wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition wt "the simplified watchtower .. why introduced" i couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. i was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:.
one egregious example: " the time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson.".
one jw cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary.
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I can't imagine them publishing these statments in the "for public consumption" WT or Awake!
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December 15 Watchtower --- A New Low in WT Anti-Intellectualism
by Room 215 ini wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition wt "the simplified watchtower .. why introduced" i couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. i was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:.
one egregious example: " the time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson.".
one jw cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary.
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I wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition WT "The Simplified Watchtower .. Why Introduced" I couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. I was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:
One egregious example: " The time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" Watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson."
One JW cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary."
Unbelievable; a paean to simple-mindedness.
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Jehovah's Witnesses believe they are not an American sect - Why?
by bats in the belfry inthe reason being:.
"all of our teachings are based on the bible, not on the writings of some religious leader in the united states.
" 1 thessalonians 2:13.. (item #3 on jw.org web page).
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Of course they are, however stridently they argue to the contrary....
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THE REASON THE GB FEAR OPEN DISCUSSIONS OF DOCTRINE.
by DATA-DOG inhave you ever wondered why the gb do not have open, honest discussions with other religious adherents?
have you ever pondered over the reasons that rank & file dubs are told not to debate their beliefs with a householder?
certainly if someone's life depended upon your 5 minute presentation at their door, you would be eager to discuss your beliefs.
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Deep down, JWs, especially the leadership,must know that many if not most of their beliefs are untenable, and that any open-forum, freewheeling public debate would expose them to ridicule.
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May 15 2013 WT: "REAL elders skip meals and lose sleep!"
by cedars infinally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.
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6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.
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" I've known and seen many examples of ones who constantly and relentlessly call the elders, bugging them for the most asenine and trivial matters."
If the elders, at the behest of their Brooklyn/Patterson overlords didn't short-circuit their flock's reasoning faculties and self-reliance by incessantly demonizing "independent thinking" and nurturing the unthinking, uncritical acceptance of everything they say, these calls would stop.
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It's sad that grown men would waste their lives -- hours and hours away from worthwhile pursuits and their families-- in pointless, nonsensical meetings like these.
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wait for it...the day when a non anointed will be on the Governing Body
by Aussie Oz ini believe that one of the next big doctrine changes will be that the non annointed can be on the gb (and eventually the whole gb will be non annointed).. now that they have slipped through that they are all domestics (the "idea" that jeffery jackson loves so) the current gb are also "domestics" when not meeting as the gb, just as the rest of the rank and file and other annointed are.. not hard to see how they can now bring in any "domestic'' annointed or not to be on the gb.
once one is in, they can bring in more as they swap over.. stand by for more new light from the celestial chariot.... they would not have made so much of the whole ''domestic'' thing just because jackson had the happies for it, there will be a reason behind the manourver i am sure.
i can't see it as essential to the change of fds from the remnant to the 8. that they could have just stated and it would have been accepted without question.
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Right, sir82 -- and I wouldn't bet against the likelihood that 47-year old Mark Sanderson wasn't given a nudge ...